Ep 7: Norm and Norma Consider the Impact of Buying a Home on Achieving Financial Independence

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Welcome to the Real Estate Financial Planner™ Podcast. I am your host, James Orr. This is Episode 7.

Today we’re going to continue with  Norm and  Norma’s story.

If you remember from the previous episode, Episode 6,  Norm and  Norma are 21-year-old recent college grads that are working in the tech department of a healthcare company.

They’ve managed to save up $10,000 between the both of them.

They earn about $72,000 per year… $36,000 each.

Because they have not had significant lifestyle creep from living as college students, they’re able to save $1,000 per month of the $6,000 per month they have in combined income.

They’re both obsessed with achieving financial independence and to be able to retire early.

The Ultimate FIRE Budget™
The Ultimate FIRE Budget™

They took some time to go through The Ultimate Financial Independence Retire Early Budget™ together and determine their current budget and savings rate and, in some ways to them… more importantly… their budget for being financial independent. In fact, they determined their minimum budget for being financially independent and their ideal budget if they were living their ideal lifestyle.

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By going through the The Ultimate Financial Independence Retire Early Budget™,  Norm and  Norma have determined that they need $5,000 per month from their investments to consider themselves financially independent at a minimum. This is the same amount of money they are living on now, so that seems reasonable to them.

They’ve determined that to live their ideal lifestyle, they’d ideally want to be earning $10,000 per month.

In the previous episode, we had  Norm and  Norma invest in stocks with no real estate… not even an owner-occupant home for them to live in. Instead, they opted to rent. By investing in stocks, they were able to achieve financial independence… when the amount of money they had invested in the stock market… using a 4% safe withdrawal rate… provided them $5,000 per month… adjusted up for inflation… by month 482… or a little more than 40 years from now… when they’re about 61 years old.

In this episode,  Norm and  Norma will consider the impact of buying an owner-occupant home to live in while still primarily investing the stock market to achieve financial independence.

In their real estate market, by renting they are able… at least in the beginning… to save more money… because buying a home with a 5% down payment would result in them paying more than the $1,800 per month they’re currently paying in rent.

Ep 7 - Personal Expenses Including Real Estate - 1-120
Ep 7 – Personal Expenses Including Real Estate – 1-120

If they buy a property, it will increase their personal expenses. They go from paying about $1,800 per month in rent… adjusted up for inflation… to paying about $2,150 per month as a mortgage payment plus they will need to pay additional expenses for property taxes, insurance and some maintenance on the property.

It takes them about 26 months to be able to qualify to buy an owner-occupant property.

Ep 7 - Personal Expenses Including Real Estate - 1-120
Ep 7 – Personal Expenses Including Real Estate – 1-120

By then, they have enough for a 5% down payment plus about 1% in closing costs… and… just as important… about 6 months of reserves for this property.

Ep 7 - Personal Expenses Including Real Estate - 1-120
Ep 7 – Personal Expenses Including Real Estate – 1-120

And, at that point they’ll have enough income to qualify from a debt-to-income perspective to stay well below the 45% required Debt-To-Income level as well.

Ep 7 - Personal Expenses Including Real Estate - 1-120
Ep 7 – Personal Expenses Including Real Estate – 1-120

But, by purchasing an owner-occupant property to live in, they go from spending about $4,180 per month in personal expenses to about $4,805 per month when they buy a property in month 26.

Ep 7 - Personal Expenses Including Real Estate - 1-120 - IA
Ep 7 – Personal Expenses Including Real Estate – 1-120 – IA

If we think of it in terms of today’s dollars… by adjusting back for inflation… it is like they go from having personal expenses of $3,930 per month to having personal expenses of $4,507 per month.

Ep 7 - Total Saved - 1-120 - IA
Ep 7 – Total Saved – 1-120 – IA

They go from saving about $1,000 per month to saving about $420 per month in today’s dollars.

A primary engine of them achieving financial independence seems to be them saving money and investing in the stock market. So, at first blush, you might think that this will slow them down on their journey toward achieving financial independence.

They’ve reduced how much they’re putting away toward retirement by more than half. It was about $1,000 per month and now it is about $420 per month… That’s $580 per month less that they’re saving for retirement. That’s got to hurt, right?

Well, not so fast.

There are two things I want to discuss with you.

Ep 7 - Total Saved - 1-120 - IA
Ep 7 – Total Saved – 1-120 – IA

First, you’re right that as soon as they purchase the property their personal expenses go up considerably over what they were paying by renting.

But, when they were renting the entirety of their personal expenses were increasing with inflation at a rate of 3% per year. Food was going up 3% per year, insurance was going up 3% per year, utilities were going up 3% per year… and the rent they were paying was going up 3% per year.

However, when they buy a property, something changes.

Sure, their food and insurance and utilities and other living expenses all still go up 3% per year, but now… the principal and interest part of their living expenses becomes fixed for 30-years. Their mortgage payment is no longer impacted by inflation.

Ep 7 - Mortgage Payment
Ep 7 – Mortgage Payment

When they buy their home to live in and get their mortgage in month 26, their mortgage payment is $2,151 per month. And, until they pay it off 360 months later… it is still $2,151.

What’s interesting about that is that $1 in month 26 is worth a very different amount 360 months later… it is worth a lot less… from inflation.

Ep 7 - Mortgage Payment - IA
Ep 7 – Mortgage Payment – IA

In fact, if we adjust the mortgage payment for inflation, the payment amount appears to get cheaper over time. By the time they make their last payment, the last payment feels more like $837 in future inflated dollars instead of the $2,151 that it feels like when they first got the mortgage.

Now, before we get too far… I do want to point out that the property taxes and property insurance and property maintenance expenses they have by purchasing a property all are still going up with inflation over time. But, compared to the mortgage payment, those are relatively small in size.

Ep 7 - Comparing Personal Expenses Including Real Estate - 1-200
Ep 7 – Comparing Personal Expenses Including Real Estate – 1-200

Back to the impact of that fixed mortgage payment though on their personal expenses.

I’ve already conceded that… in the short-term… they voluntarily increase their expenses by buying an owner-occupant property.

However, over time, their personal expenses in the previous episode as a renter increase faster than the personal expenses they have in this episode as a homeowner with a fixed mortgage payment.

Eventually, in this particular case it is around month 162… about owning the property for about 11 years and change… at that point, the expenses for being a renter cross over and become more than being a homeowner.

Ep 7 - Comparing Total Saved - 1-200 - IA
Ep 7 – Comparing Total Saved – 1-200 – IA

At that point, in today’s dollars, they start saving more than $1,000 per month… and it actually continues to increase each month.

So, while in the short-term it hurts their savings rate to buy an owner-occupant property, in the long-term, it actually helps them be able to save more.

But, do you remember when I mentioned that there were TWO things that I wanted to discuss with you.

Well, the first one was this idea that the mortgage payment is fixed and benefits them over time allowing them to save more as time passes, but there’s something else.

What happens 30 years after they get that mortgage?

That’s right, it gets paid off and the $2,151 they once had a mortgage payment goes to zero. At that point, they still have property taxes, property insurance and property maintenance but $2,151 of their expenses goes away.

Ep 7 - Comparing Total Saved - 1-390 - IA
Ep 7 – Comparing Total Saved – 1-390 – IA

At that point, instead of saving about $1,000 per month as a renter, they’re saving the equivalent of about $2,445 per month as a homeowner.

Ep 7 - Comparing Total Saved - 1-390
Ep 7 – Comparing Total Saved – 1-390
Ep 7 - Comparing Total Saved - 386
Ep 7 – Comparing Total Saved – 386

In inflated future dollars, they’d be saving about $2,578 as a renter compared to about $6,306 as a homeowner.

And, as if that wasn’t enough… there’s another subtle but extremely important additional benefit hidden inside the definition of what makes  Norm and  Norma financially independent.

Do you remember what makes them financially independent? It is when they have that $5,000 per month to replace the minimal amount they needed to support themselves in retirement. That $5,000 per month number assumed they had a rent payment or a mortgage payment. But, they no longer have a mortgage payment at that point.

So, they really don’t need their investments to provide $5,000 per month anymore… it really is the $5,000 per month minus the mortgage payment. By paying off their home, they lower the bar required for being considered financially independent.

If they went back to The Ultimate Financial Independence Retire Early Budget™ and created a new budget, they’ll see that they no longer have a mortgage payment and that reduces their expenses by the payment amount that their mortgage was.

What does that mean for  Norm and  Norma? It means it is much easier for them to achieve financial independence because their stock investments times their safe withdrawal rate no longer needs to provide $5,000 per month… it needs to provide less than $3,000 per month.

Financial Independence

So, when do they achieve financial independence? And, is it before they pay off their mortgage or after?

Ep 7 - First Achieved MTMIR
Ep 7 – First Achieved MTMIR

It turns out they achieve financial independence a few months after they pay off their owner-occupant mortgage in month 396.

That’s about 7 years faster than they were able to achieve financial independence as a renter.

Ep 7 - Comparing Percentage of MTMIR
Ep 7 – Comparing Percentage of MTMIR

Additionally, by buying an owner-occupant property,  Norm and  Norma actually could live at a higher standard of living if they wanted.

Net Worth

Ep 7 - Net Worth - 720
Ep 7 – Net Worth – 720

Let’s talk about net worth.

By renting they end up with a higher overall net worth. As a renter investing in stocks, they end up with a net worth of just over $17 million dollars compared to almost $14.5 million as a homeowner.

Ep 7 - Net Worth - 720 - IA
Ep 7 – Net Worth – 720 – IA

In today’s dollars, that’s like almost $3 million to almost $2.5 million or about half a million dollars difference in favor of renting.

That might seem counterintuitive after first blush… they achieve financial independence faster but have a lower net worth if they buy a home to live in. Yes… that’s correct. The homeowner got to financial independence faster not by directly out-saving and out-investing the renter.

They got there by lowering the bar to being financially independent by not having to worry about a large percentage of the housing expense once they pay off their mortgage.

Ep 7 - Net Worth - 720 - IA
Ep 7 – Net Worth – 720 – IA

And, the house they live in… which represents a portion of their net worth is equity in their property… is going up at 3% per year. The money they have invested in the stock market is going up at 8% per year.

Next Episode

But… what if  Norm and  Norma decide to buy 20% down payment rentals? Does that speed up their journey toward achieving financial independence? Find out in the next episode of the Real Estate Financial Planner™ Podcast.

Also, be sure to check out the Advanced Real Estate Financial Planner™ Podcast to see how having variable property appreciation rates and rent appreciation rates, variable mortgage interest rates, variable inflation rate and variable stock market rates of return impacts  Norm and  Norma when they buy their owner-occupant property.

I hope you have enjoyed this Episode about  Norm and  Norma buying an owner-occupant property and investing in stocks. This has been James Orr with the Real Estate Financial Planner™ Podcast. Bye bye for now.

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